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Oh good. I appreciate there is a lot to do and it is good the site is still going. Though of course where to date some of 11's later stories gets interesting...
Yes it will, eventually.
I'm generally adding new stuff to this section as I write up discontinuity guides. As I write this comment I'm partway through writing up Torchwood Series 2, which I'm finding a real slog because the quality is so low (and so I keep putting off doing the next episode) after which I'll come back to writing up Doctor Who TV episodes.
I'm also doing a bit of a re-write of the entire history section as part of putting it into a new backend that will eventually allow some nice functionality, so the history section of the site is still being updated, just mostly in ways that aren't immediately obvious.
Will this bit on the 2010s ever be updated, as it seems to have stopped with Series 3.
1) When the First Doctor landed on Skaro, he had no control of the TARDIS. In addition, the Time Lords erased part of his memory.
2) When the Fourht Doctor landed on Skaro in Destiny of the Daleks, he had control of the TARDIS. And the TARDIS banks would have stored this planet's location as being Skaro. Thus, it is these co-ordinates in Destiny that destroy 'Skaro'.
3) Terry Nation never gave the Virgin Books the rights to any of his characters. Thus, any Daleks, Thals, Movellans etc. appearing in any Virgin Books must be totally different creatures who just, coincidentally, have the same names for their races as races from Dalek stories.
4) The destruction of Skaro in Remembrance is the stupidest thing to happen in Classic Who. Followed, closely behind, by Ace destroying a Dalek with a baseball bat, which only narrowly beats the entirety of The Happiness Patrol.
5) This book does seem to split fandom, similar to UNIT dating. Those who despise it seem to be of the 'The Seventh Doctor as Time's Champion is the Greatest Who Ever', whereas those who have no real problem with it are those who prefer their Doctor to be more like Doctors One through Six.
6) But nothing mentioned above in this post comes close to the absurdities of The Timeless Child.
Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords/End of Time 1/End of Time 2:
1) The Master is a person of importance, whose real identity is unnknown. A big hint to his true identity is when the Doctor's companions see his anachronistic watch...The Time Meddler
2) The Master alters History so that Harold (the) Saxon can rule Britain..The Time Meddler
3) The Master has a laser screwdriver.. The Daleks' Master Plan
4) The Master speaks of his "Call to War"...The War Games
5) The scene where the Doctor and the Master argue about calling in the Time Lords...The War Games
Hello
It's possible that I missed something, maybe you can help.
At the end of The End of Time the Tenth Doctor visits all of his companions, last of which is Rose on New Year's morning before they met in 2005.
The TARDIS takes off and starts to break up as The Doctor regenerates. This part of the story continues at the beginning of The Eleventh Hour when the TARDIS crash lands on Amelia Pond's aunt's shed.
After his initial meeting with Amelia he says he has to test run the TARDIS then he'll come back for her.
There doesn't seem to be any hint of the TARDIS travelling in time throughout any of this so the meeting between The Doctor and Amelia must take place on 01 January 2005, not Easter.
Approximately twelve years later The Doctor returns for Amelia so it must be 2016/17. Then the adventure of The Eleventh Hour unfolds, The Doctor goes back to his TARDIS and returns for Amy two years later.
So, surely the story is now being picked up in 2018/19. Which means they are only a year away from the events of The Hungry Earth and years after 26 June 2010, the day Rory and Amy married and conceived River Song.
Can this be explained?
Gary Adams
Autons and The Three Doctors?
See what this Terrance Dicks wrote for the Master's introduction scene in the Terror of the Autons novelisation, pages 24-26. Then I dare you to try and say that the 'War Chief and the Master are two completely separate characters. With a straight face.
Is there ANOTHER Terrance Dicks who specifically wrote in the novelisation of The Three Doctors(page 93):
"In his various incarnations, the Doctor had found himself up against many terrifying enemies. With the exception of the Master, this was the first time he had found himself opposed by a fellow Time Lord. And in comparison to Omega, the Master shrank almost to a petty criminal."
Or, is that a second Terrance Dicks, who also was working on Doctor Who at the same time?
So, when someone points out that the entire "Deca" section is part of a section entitled "DREAMING", that the Doctor clearly falls asleep right before this, and then clearly wakes up right after this, and it can not possibly be sued as reliable biographical information, some people respond "Oho, but what about the sction at the end, where every Deca member gets a 'Whatever happened to..'
Using just ONE example, let's take "Mortimus". Part of HIS 'biography' AFTER the Deca sequence includes
"Giving the Normans atomic bazookas in the eleventh century"
Wait...WHAT?
Well, clearly not Peter Butterworth's Time Meddler then, who wanted to sue an atomic warhead to commit genocide against the Vikings, on behalf of the Anglo-Saxons, before the Normans ever showed up. If his whole point for being there was to PREVENT the Normans from conquering England, why would he give the Normans atomic bazookas?
"Harmless really"
Yes, someone who is handing out weapons of mass destruction to a conquering people, at a time when their enemies had nothing more advanced than bows and arrows, knowing full well how they would use them is 'harmless really'.
Back to 'Mortimus'..
"putting money in a bank and nipping forward a few thousand years to claim millions in compound interest".
So, very clearly not the same person from The Time Meddler who
"Put two hundred pounds in a London bank in 1968. Nipped forward two hundred years and collected a fortune in compound interest."
Either the 'Where are they now' section is STILL part of the unreliable dream, or Mortimus is a totally different character to the Time Lord who appears in The Time Meddler and The Daleks' Mast Plan. Or both.
Mortimus? Haha. That's from the New Adventures, right? Mortimus the Monk, Magnus the Master. So, is the Doctor's real name Dougald, then?
That 'Mortimus' from No Future was also someone who had never met the Doctor on Gallifrey, and who was stranded on an ice planet for a long period of time. Meaning he ain't the same character Peter Butterworth plays in The Daleks' Master Plan, as knew the Doctor from before The Time Meddler, and he was never stranded on any ice planet.
The goof that you mention regarding the roof of the car is not a goof, the picture clearly depicts a sunroof of sorts that takes up the majority of the roof in the picture and therefore would be able to be opened for Harry to see the stars as described in page 73.
Not to get into "UNIT Dating", but thst wasn't a goof.
The overwhelming majority of stories went with the original UNIT Dating, and Mawdryn Undead was the anomaly.
Who Killed Kennedy etc. chose to go with the opinion of a tiny minority.
Major discontinuity/goof here.
In The Ancestor Cell, Romana places K9 in the TARDIS. In The Gallifrey Chronicles, K9 states that it has been "114 years, 9 months.." since then.
The Doctor spent nearly 113 years on earth(The Burning through Escape Velocity).
The Doctor also spent the better part of a year on Earth in The Adventuress of Henrietta Street.
Trix also stated near the end of her time with the Doctor that she had been with him for 'four months'.
So, where do these magical four years fit in?
The President in this novel is hardly unnamed. He's named several times as Tom Dering.
In Terror of the Autons Pertwee clearly doesn't recognise the Master as Delgado, making it clear the Doctor has never met the Master as Delgado before that story.
Another oddity (which the awful Big Finish Audio with David Bradley also does) is have a FIRST Master as a man in early middle age..opposite a Doctor who is both the same age, yet much older. The First Doctor regenerated from old age, and is now in his second incarnation. Yet the Master is still in his first incarnation, and doesn't look old at all? Eh?
From the Target novelisation "The Time Meddler":
'Outside on the staircase the Monk appeared, holding a loft a burning torch. He regarded his captive's pathetic attempts at escape with evil amusement.
Their eyes met and in that instant a flash of recognition passed between the two old men.
The Monk threw back his head and laughed triumphantly. He had the Doctor in his power; nothing in the world could interfere with his plans now.'
And from the Target novelisation "The Mutation of Time(aka The Dalek's Mast Plan pt. 2":
'With a sinking feeling, he bent down to examine the underside of the mushroom-shaped console. There, dangling teasingly, were several wires...howling, the Monk examined them, and then straightened up.'The Doctor's done it again', he screamed. 'He's stolen my directional unit! I'll have to wander around in space and time as lost as he is!' Furiously, he kicked the console, and then winced with pain. Shaking his fist at the roof, he vowed:'I'll get you for this, Doctor! Somehow, someday - I'll get you for this!'
So,
a)The Monk and the Doctor clearly recognise each other instantly in 1066.
b)The Monk is never stranded anywhere. Quite the opposite, he is destined to wander time and space with no control of his TARDIS. (If his TARDIS was 'stranded', he would never have been able to get TO the ice planet in the first place, obviously.)
'Mortimus' is a character who ahd never met the Doctor before Mediaevel England, and was stranded on an ice planet for a considerable period of time.
Only possible conclusion: Peter Butterworth's Monk from the TIme Meddler and the Daleks' Master Plan & Paul Cornell's Mortimus from No Future are two entirely separate, unconnected characters.
(And, if we take Divided Loyalties into account, there's a second(third) Time Lord in this equation, ALSO called 'Mortimus', who was part of the Deca with the Doctor on Gallifrey. Because Cornell rather drives home the idea that the Doctor and 'Mortimus' has NEVER met before 1066. Whereas the Doctor knows the Divided Loyalties Mortimus from the Deca, and the Doctor instantly recognises the Monk in the Time Meddler.)
I assume the War Chief is between Butterworth and Delgado?
And how do Big Finish's two "Monks" fit in with each other?
The Garden "Monk" states that he first met the Doctor in The Time Meddler, and hasn't seen him since TDMP, only for the Hound "Monk" to keep appearing between those points.
And then one of the Sixth Doctor/Rani audios mentions their old Academy friend 'Mortimus'. Oh dear...
In episode 10 of The Daleks' Master Plan we very clearly see Butterworth enter his TARDIS, and then the TARDIS leaves the ice planet.
In No Future, it is stated that he was stranded there for a lengthy period of time! In fact, his new characterisation and demeanour, and some may say the entire 'Alternative History' novel arc, stem from his "being stranded on the ice planet".
But go back to your 'Lost in Time' DVD, and watch the scene. His TARDIS very clearly leaves the ice planet, shortly after arrival.
Whoever thd 'Mortimus' in No Future may or may not be, one thing is certain: He's not the same character that Peter Butterworth played in The Time Meddler and The Daleks' Master Plan.
Hi, thanks for the great website! I just wanted to mention that the story with Ace and the termite mounds is covered in the DWM prelude to this novel, and so it is technically not unrecorded.
"At the end, how exactly does the Master manage to lock the Doctor out of the TARDIS? He appears to simply toggle the lock from the inside, which prevents the TARDIS key from turning. Which isn't how locks work."
That is exactly the way a Yale lock works - and most deadlocks. There is a small toggle that prevents the key from turning (and the inside knob from turning). Am I misunderstanding this statement?
Nice guide.
An animated reconstruction of the 4 episodes was released in March 2019 as both colour and black and white using the original soundtracks as featured on the audio release and has a few special features on both discs. It also has the original audio version which was released on cassette thrown in for good measure. Check it out.
When the Doctor goes to the red, volcanic planet he has disabled the temporal circuits, since he is trying to get the survivors home. So the year there is also 2136
Thin Ice has 1814 as the last great frost fair, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there can't be ater frost fairs that aren't great. That's probably the best way of reconciling the two stories. But good spot on the apparent contradiction.